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Children[edit]
Why can't Abbie be in this section? She is his daughter. Herbert has only ever featured in two episodes. Whether or not her character is 'major' does not change the fact that she is one of his children, and so should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.141.14 (talk) 21:38, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Besides, it's not like Herb Powell was any more important (he only had one more episode than her, which is still not really enough to separate him from her or make him more than a 'one-time joke') Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:17, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- It is the context of the episodes, not the number of them, which separate the two. faithless(speak) 22:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Article title[edit]
About three years ago, Mhavril39 broached the subject of this article's title, and it's a topic that I'd like to bring up again. Is there any particular reason why this article is called 'Abraham Simpson' rather than 'Grampa Simpson'? 'Grampa Simpson' is the name by which the character is most predominantly known, both in and out of the show, and I would guess that it's the name by which most readers might search for an encyclopedia article about the character. It would make sense to refer to this character by his 'legal name' if this were a biography, but it isn't - it's an article about a fictional character, and treating it like a biography would violate WP:WAF. I propose that we move this article over the Grampa Simpson redirect. A Thousand Doors (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Requested move[edit]
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The result of the move request was: consensus to move to Grandpa Simpson, there is some conflict as to spelling (perhaps this should be discussed in future) but a clear consensus for the move in general (non-admin closure) Bob House 884 (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Abraham Simpson → Grandpa Simpson – It seems to me that 'Grandpa Simpson' (or 'Grampa Simpson') is the name which this character is most often referred to, both in and out of the show, and I think that it is the name by which readers might search for an encyclopedia article on the character. It would make sense to refer to this character by his 'legal name' if this were a biography, but it isn't – it's an article about a fictional character, and treating it like a biography would violate WP:WAF. It's the same reason why the Bart Simpson article isn't titled 'Bartholomew Simpson' – that's not the name by which the character is known. For comparison, a Google News search for 'grandpa simpson' 'the simpsons' returns 144 results; a search for 'grampa simpson' 'the simpsons' returns 88; a search for 'abraham simpson' 'the simpsons' returns only 14. A Thousand Doors (talk) 11:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support; sound reasoning. PowersT 12:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Jenks24 (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- To clarify, I support a move to Grandpa Simpson only. It is clearly shown to be the most common name by the results above. Even if the show creators officially name the character 'Grampa', Wikipedia does not use official names, it uses the most common name. Jenks24 (talk) 09:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Support but only if we go with Grampa, which is how they spell it. CTJF83 14:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Oppose per Scorpion.CTJF83 15:28, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I'm happy to support 'Grampa' rather than 'Grandpa' – I'd personally be happy with either. You say that 'Grampa' is how they spell it, but where exactly? Is this on the official Simpsons website, or in an official book? A Thousand Doors (talk contribs) 18:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- http://thesimpsons.com/characters/home.htm and The Simpsons: A Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family spell it Grampa, as does Grampa vs. Sexual Inadequacy. CTJF83 21:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, thank you for pointing that out. A Thousand Doors (talk contribs) 16:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose too many ways to spell grandpa/grampa/etc. 184.144.163.181 (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not really a good reason. CTJF83 21:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose In techinal terms, Grampa is what he is most referred to, so should we move it there? While we're at it, most people call Homer just Homer, rather than 'Homer Simpson', so lets move that one too. He has been called Abe/Abraham and Grampa numerous times over the series, so it really could go either way, so WP:COMMONNAME does not apply. But, his 'real' name is Abraham, so we should keep it here. -- Scorpion0422 18:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- You make a good point, and I was ready to change my position, until I did some thinking. There's several instances where we don't use their first and last name for the article title Mr. Burns instead of Charles/Montgomery Burns, Sideshow Bob instead of Robert Terwilliger, Fat Tony instead of Anthony D'Amico, Reverend Timothy Lovejoy, instead of just Timothy Lovejoy (actually reverend should be removed from the title), Comic Book Guy instead of Jeff Albertson, Krusty the Clown instead of Herschel Krustofski, and Groundskeeper Willie instead of William McDougal. I know some are just one episode names, but some aren't. But we also have characters supporting your view, Clancy Wiggum instead of Chief Wiggum, Hans Moleman instead of just Moleman, Waylon Smithers instead of Smithers, Ned Flanders instead of Flanders, Joe Quimby instead of Mayor Quimby. We should use this to standardize the naming. CTJF83 00:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Using full names is fine when needed for disambiguation purposes (as would be the case with Homer or Flanders or Moleman). In other cases, we should use the most common name -- and the normal WP:NCPEOPLE guidelines don't apply because these are characters, not people. So Reverend Lovejoy, for instance, would be the preferred title (heck, I didn't even know he had a first name) because that's how he is best known. PowersT 02:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- You make a good point, and I was ready to change my position, until I did some thinking. There's several instances where we don't use their first and last name for the article title Mr. Burns instead of Charles/Montgomery Burns, Sideshow Bob instead of Robert Terwilliger, Fat Tony instead of Anthony D'Amico, Reverend Timothy Lovejoy, instead of just Timothy Lovejoy (actually reverend should be removed from the title), Comic Book Guy instead of Jeff Albertson, Krusty the Clown instead of Herschel Krustofski, and Groundskeeper Willie instead of William McDougal. I know some are just one episode names, but some aren't. But we also have characters supporting your view, Clancy Wiggum instead of Chief Wiggum, Hans Moleman instead of just Moleman, Waylon Smithers instead of Smithers, Ned Flanders instead of Flanders, Joe Quimby instead of Mayor Quimby. We should use this to standardize the naming. CTJF83 00:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose why move? There is an good redirect and Abraham Simpson is his real name. Oups, forgot to sign. Also, when 1 more person said 'Support' or 'Oppose' I am asking for uninvolved help from an sysop to evaluate consensus. ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 14:40, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean by 'real name'? PowersT 14:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Why would you ask for help with 5 days left in the discussion? By real name the user means Abraham is his name, not Grampa/Grandpa. CTJF83 20:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- He's a fictional character. His name is whatever the scripts say it is. PowersT 13:36, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- But, he's just as commonly referred to as Abe/Abraham, particularily in the earlier seasons of the series. Like I said above, the article really could go with either name, but I prefer Abraham as it's his 'real' name. -- Scorpion0422 18:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I still don't know what 'real' name' means in regards to a fictional character. PowersT 00:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- Within the context of the show, Abraham Simpson is his given name and Grampa is a nickname. Why is that so difficult to understand? -- Scorpion0422 00:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well why didn't you say so? But regardless, I don't see any reason to favor a character's fictional given name over his fictional nickname, if the latter is more common. PowersT 11:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- Within the context of the show, Abraham Simpson is his given name and Grampa is a nickname. Why is that so difficult to understand? -- Scorpion0422 00:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure that it's true to say that the character is 'just as commonly referred to as Abe/Abraham'. From my casual viewing of the show, it seems to me that he's predominantly referring to as 'Grampa' or 'Grampa Simpson', even by characters not within the family (I seem to recall Dr. Hibbert calling him Grampa, for example). If I'm remembering correctly, we don't even learn that Abraham is Grampa's 'real' name until the end of the fourth season. Hence why I feel that the article should be moved to 'Grampa Simpson', or some other equivalent. A Thousand Doors (talk contribs) 21:17, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- I still don't know what 'real' name' means in regards to a fictional character. PowersT 00:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- But, he's just as commonly referred to as Abe/Abraham, particularily in the earlier seasons of the series. Like I said above, the article really could go with either name, but I prefer Abraham as it's his 'real' name. -- Scorpion0422 18:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- He's a fictional character. His name is whatever the scripts say it is. PowersT 13:36, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- Why would you ask for help with 5 days left in the discussion? By real name the user means Abraham is his name, not Grampa/Grandpa. CTJF83 20:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean by 'real name'? PowersT 14:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support, obvious recognizable common name; will actually tell people what the article is about instead of belittling most of them for their ignorance.--Kotniski (talk) 16:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support per WP:COMMONNAME, though it should be 'Grampa Simpson' per CTJF. – Harry Blue5(talk • contribs) 17:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support move to Grampa Simpson per WP:UCN. I think it's obviously the more common way to refer to the character, both within the series universe and without. Good Ol’factory(talk) 10:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think the google searches in the nom clearly indicate that the character is more commonly referred to as 'Grandpa' outside of the 'universe', while I agree with you that he is commonly referred to as 'Grampa' in-universe. Jenks24 (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Support - Yes I am aware that his first name is Abraham but I still think he is known as Grandpa. MarcusQwertyus 15:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Kauffner (talk) 09:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Support --- He is indeed referred to as 'Grandpa' more often than his full name. SwisterTwister (talk) 22:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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English descent?[edit]
Babysitting jobs near me full time. When does it say anything about Grampa's English heritage in the show? If anything he is an immigrant from an unknown country (probably Ireland)!--90.210.248.36 (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
What is it with you 'irish' fanboy's in america? Everyone's got to be of Irish descent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.242.180 (talk) 14:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
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Which is correct ??[edit]
your dad going to be great grandpa so do i ?? or so am I >?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:A060:5600:8841:3879:F82D:D37F (talk) 23:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Fictional character from The Simpsons franchiseGrampa SimpsoncharacterFirst appearance'Grandpa and the Kids' (1988)Created byVoiced by(1988–present)InformationGenderMaleOccupationRetired farmer, veteranFamily(grandson)(granddaughter)(granddaughter)(daughter-in-law)Spouse(deceased)(divorced)(divorced)(deceased)(See also )ChildrenAbbieAbraham Jebediah 'Abe' Simpson II, better known as Grampa Simpson, is a main character in the animated television series. He made his first appearance in the episode entitled ', a one-minute Simpsons short on, before the debut of the television show in 1989.Grampa Simpson is voiced by, who also voices his son,.
He is also the paternal grandfather of,. In the 1000th issue of, Grampa was selected as the Grandpa for 'The Perfect TV Family'. Grampa Simpson is a veteran and retired farmer who was later sent to the by Homer.
He is known for his long, rambling, often incoherent and irrelevant stories and senility. Contents.Biography Grampa Simpson is the father to, father-in-law to and the paternal grandfather to siblings,. Grampa has also fathered two illegitimate children; a daughter named Abbie by a British woman named Edwina while in the during, and by a carnival prostitute. Grampa has an older brother named Cyrus, who lives in and has. He also has a younger brother named Chet, who owns an unsuccessful shrimp company. Grampa was briefly married to, the same woman Homer married on a drinking binge in.
Grampa has also been briefly married to Marge's sister, and was once romantically linked to Marge's mother,. Grampa Simpson was also married to Rita LaFleur.Almost all of Grampa's biographical information is supplied by himself and seems to be made up, although this could be likely due to his old age. Many of his stories seem to be wildly inaccurate, often physically or historically impossible, and occasionally inconsistent even with each other, suggesting that Grampa is quite. It is unknown where Grampa was born. He claims that he came to America as a boy from the 'old country', but he cannot remember which country it was, although most likely it was the United Kingdom. Grampa was raised in New York City with his parents, Orville J.
Simpson and Yuma Hickman. He gives his age as 83 in the Season 17 episode ',' while in ' (season 29), the family celebrates his 87th birthday. In the Season 25 episode ',' Homer states that Grampa's father is still alive.Grampa is a veteran of, where he served as of the unit. At the very end of war in Europe, Grampa's unit 'liberated' a stash of priceless art from surrendering German forces. The Flying Hellfish formed a, and buried the art in a trunk at sea. Decades later, the second surviving member of the unit, tried to murder Grampa in order to get the art, prompting Grampa to violate the tontine. When Grampa and Bart retrieved the art from Mr.
However, the festival was cancelled due to event organizers failing to get the necessary city permits. Moonrise festival.
Burns, arrived to return the art to its rightful owner. Grampa was a hated wrestler named 'Glamorous Godfrey' in the 1950s, revealed in the episode ', starring him and.Homer's mother, was married to Grampa for several years. According to ', they met in the 1950s and hooked up on the day Grampa allegedly broke the. She became entranced with the hippie lifestyle after seeing 's hair on television. She became a fugitive from justice after she abetted in the sabotage of a research lab owned by Mr.
Burns to deliberately poison everyone in. To explain this to his then-six-year-old son, Grampa said that Mona died while Homer was at the movies. Grampa has a poor, but sometimes loving relationship with his son, who placed him in a nursing home as soon as he could, despite Grampa selling his house in order to provide Homer with a mortgage. It is recurringly suggested that, while caring, Grampa was a strict disciplinarian who could be very controlling, neglectful, and even emotionally abusive towards Homer when he was growing up and he still had not forgiven him for that.
Saying that, after Mona left Homer at a young age, Grampa brought up Homer by himself without hesitation and he reveals his true nature. In the season four episode, ', Grampa admits to head of Itchy and Scratchy studios, Roger Myers Jr., that he worked as a cranberry silo nightwatchman for forty-years.The Simpson family will often do their best to avoid unnecessary contact with Grampa. A running gag in the show usually has Grampa in a cameo episode appearance where he wonders where everyone is or wishes to be noticed by the family. One example of this was when the family thought they left something on the plane in the episode ', which revealed to be Grampa.
Despite this, Homer has shown feelings of love for his father from time to time. Character. Voices Grampa and several other recurring characters Creation , creator of The Simpsons, wanted to have a character that was 'really cranky' and old, and who complained a lot and invented stories to tell to children, so he created Grampa. After naming the main characters after his own family members (except for, an anagram of 'brat', which he substituted for his own name), Groening refused to name Grampa after his grandfather, Abraham Groening. He left it to the writers to choose a name and they chose 'Abraham', not knowing that it was also the name of Groening's grandfather. Grampa first appeared in the 'Grampa and the Kids', which premiered on on January 10, 1988. In the short, Grampa tells his grandchildren stories of 'the good old days'.
When they stop paying attention to him, he feigns his own death to recapture their attention.The Simpsons writer commented that Grampa is often the focus of pointed jokes about old people. He said the reason for that is because the staff is trying to illustrate how society mistreats the elderly, 'and some of it is because people over 55 never watch our show'. And, former writers on the show, said that they liked to write episodes about Grampa because they are 'obsessed' with old people. Weinstein commented that they 'both love old people and seem to really hate them at the same time'. He also said that he 'enjoys' writing for characters such as Grampa and Mr.
Burns because of their 'out-datedness', and because he gets to use dictionaries for looking up 'old time slang'. Voice Grampa's voice is performed by, who also voices numerous other characters, including,. Castellaneta was part of the regular cast of and had previously done some voice-over work in Chicago alongside his wife. Castellaneta likes to stay in character during recording sessions, and tries to visualize a scene in his mind so that he can give the proper voice to it. The episode ' (, 1994) featured many interactions between Grampa and Homer, so Castellaneta therefore had to talk to himself when he recorded the voices for that episode. Castellaneta said it is hard for him to do Grampa's voice because it is 'wheezy and airy'. Reception Commendations Nancy Basile of named Grampa the fifth best character of The Simpsons, calling him a 'perfect stereotypical old person'.
In the 1000th issue of, Grampa was selected as the 'Grandpa for The Perfect TV Family'. Joe Rhodes of considered Grampa's most memorable line to be 'If I'm not back at the home by nine, they declare me legally dead and collect my insurance.'
Dan Castellaneta has won two in the category for voicing various characters, including Grampa. The first was awarded in 1992 for the episode ', and the second in 2004 for '. In 2010, Castellaneta was nominated for the award for voicing Grampa and Homer in the episode '.The Simpsons writer said that one of his favorite jokes on the show is the one where Grampa cycles down the street in high speed and shouts that he feels young again, and is then knocked flying from his bicycle after a doll's head flies into the spokes and falls into an open grave. In a review of the Grampa-centric episode ', Patrick Bromley of DVD Verdict said that he is 'never terribly interested' in episodes that revolve around Grampa, because he believes Grampa is 'great as a background character, but less so when he takes center stage.'
DVD Movie Guide's Colin Jacobson said in a review of the same episode that Grampa is 'always fun' and 'it’s nice to see him in an ebullient mood, at least for a while.' Analysis. Writer thinks that what makes Grampa funny is that the 'boring' and 'tedious' things he says are 'actually funny' in the context of the boredom and the tedium.Mirkin thinks it is hard to make a 'boring' and 'tedious' character, such as Grampa, funny.
He believes that what ultimately makes Grampa funny is that the things he says are 'actually funny' in the context of the boredom and the tedium. Anne-Marie Barry and Chris Yuill, the authors of the book Understanding the Sociology of Health, commented that in episodes in which Grampa appears, the comedy content is often generated by Grampa falling asleep at 'inopportune' moments or 'embarking' on long rambling stories about his youth. 'Instances such as these match popular stereotypes that all old people are 'demented' and in poor health,' they wrote.Alan S. Brown and Chris Logan wrote in that Grampa has the least amount of 'power' in the Simpson family, and that he is treated as little more than a child and is often ignored. The family frequently laughs at his 'failing' memory and his 'ineffectual' attempts to get what he wants.
They added that Grampa is left behind, forgotten, and rarely invited to spend time with the family. The authors commented that he is 'not without influence, but he certainly does not play the traditional grandfather role in the family hierarchy.' Brown and Logan also wrote that Grampa had a considerable influence in the formation of Homer's character, and that flashbacks in The Simpsons show what an 'angry', 'critical' father he was to Homer. 'He yelled, used corporal punishment, and constantly belittled Homer's attempts to have fun, date, and excel at various activities,' they added. The authors said that Homer tries 'in vain' to repair his relationship with Grampa and continuously seeks for his approval, but Grampa continues to be 'as critical as ever'. In his book Understanding the Psychology of Diversity, author Bruce Evan Blaine wrote that Grampa is typically portrayed as a 'doddering', 'senile', and 'dependent' person who is a 'trivial' and 'often disposable figure' in his son's life.
Merchandising created two Grampa Simpson action figures for the series. The first, released in May 2000, depicts Grampa in his usual appearance. The second, 'Sunday Grampa', was released in June 2002, and depicts Grampa in his Sunday church clothes. Alongside the television series, Grampa regularly appears in issues of, which were first published on November 29, 1993. The final issue was published on October 17, 2018.
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